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What is the future of being a FA? Are we doomed to extinction, AI porn or ultra-expensive "models". What happens to all the wonderful fatties as these weight loss drugs improve and get cheaper and easy to get. Should we start bombing the pharmaceutical companies now???
Ultimately, I figure it will weed out the people that actually don't want to be fat and only the "true" feedees that genuinely enjoy being fat will remain.
>>53863
That doesn't sound too bad actually
You'll know she's into it from the very beginning

But the question is
How many will be left once it became available to the masses..

Like what percentage of today's level remains..?

Also, these medications are relatively new
We're yet to see if they have any unknown serious long term side effects and if people actually use it for the rest of their lives..

Rumors about several things do exist..

But in the end it's just a matter of time until someone has the perfect recipe
If it's more profitable than letting people get morbidly obese and treat them..
>>53864

Unsure. There are no real studies about how many fat people are into feedism by any given degree. I'd imagine it will be "less", but you'd be surprised how many people can get into feedism when introduced to it.
>>53866
Yes, I actually think that some woman may become feeders who wouldn't otherwise, because they'll think the drugs can also bring them back anytime they want. But I doubt they'd want to get so big they'd need skin surgery to look "normal" again.

I always have to wonder what % of feeders really want to be so fat. I can imagine how it can be fun to get fat with the support of an FA and to support a fanbase and make money. But so many of these women seem to end up pretty pathetic and depressed to me, especially approaching immobility. The woman who stick to this will probably be even more fucked up than many we hear about today. No drug yet envisioned will make up for the damage that being >500lb will do to your body in just a few years.
>>53864
From the science I've been reading, if anything, these drugs seem to have benefits beyond weight loss even when normalizing the results by weight. While we can hope, I doubt we'll discover side effects from newer and better versions of these drugs that are worse than the side effects of being obese. So not "optimistic" about this.

Maybe we need to fabricate some kind of public scare. Remember when they poisoned Tylenol? Just saying...
I doubt sightly overweight women will become rare, since they wouldn't be assumed to have lost weight by willpower.
Also, some women might think "I can always take Ozempic later".
>>53862 (OP)
>>53863
I was thinking about this earlier today actually.

I came to the conclusion that there are only 6 reasons a fat woman wouldn't take ozempic.
1. It's too expensive
2. It's too hard to get / supply issues
3. They are worried about long term side effects
4. They're too embarrassed to take it; they don't want people thinking they're taking the easy way out
5. They don't think their weight is a problem - they don't like it per se, they just don't care strongly enough about it to start taking a weight loss drug
6. They actually like being fat

I think #1 is the biggest reason why more people don't take it. I think if this shit was free, fucking everyone would be taking it.
#2 used to be a big problem but really isn't anymore (at least in Ireland). But that could change of course.
#3 is the most reasonable objection IMO. Only time will tell if there are any serious long term side effects. If there are, this whole fad might just die down. If not, it'll become even more popular.
#4 I actually know someone in this category, which is why I included it. It's hard to say how big of a factor it is, but it definitely exists.
#5 Among people who can afford to take ozempic but choose not to, I think this is probably the most common reason why. At least based on the women I've dated.
#6 is pure copium IMO. Oh sure, I'm sure there are maybe a handful of women in the entire world like this. But I personally am very pessimistic about this. To reiterate, I think if ozempic was free, almost everyone would take it.
>>53870
I think the following phrases will become popular:
"Who needs willpower anymore" or "What's so special about willpower?"
"Do you think I'm some sort of weak pathetic person because I took Ozempic?"
"It beats being on "My 600-lb Life"
"I'd rather use what little willpower I have to get richer than having to waste effort trying to lose weight."
my wife took it and gained all the weight back plus some. She ended up in the hospital after she was sick for weeks.
Speaking as a guy, I’m currently around 290lbs. I’m fat and I’ve always wanted to be fat. I’m interested in dating fat girls only. I can say 100% that I have absolutely no interest or intention to take these drugs.

If I get hypertension, I’ll up my exercise and take medication for that. Same for cholesterol. If I ever become pre- or full diabetic, then I’ll lose some weight but even then, I prefer exercise.

The last thing I want to do is take a medication that’ll stop my love of food and my ex-GF loved food too much as well. Plus, I know somebody who’s really fat who took one of these drugs and had to quit due to nausea.

I think the media is hyping these drugs up and people who want to lose weight will take it. In my personal opinion, I think lots of these people just want instant and easy results, and they’ll likely be the ones who’ll want to grab it, depriving diabetics the supply they need.

And looking at statistics, it seems the vast majority gain 2/3 of the weight back anyway, so it seems pointless to me. And besides, the drug doesn’t do all the work; you still have to combine it with diet and exercise, and maintain it. I don’t see that happening in everyone.

TL;DR I don’t think this will be the end of fat people. Some people will feel sick and stop taking it. Most people will gain the weight back. There will always be people who know they want to be fat and seek a fat partner.
>>53864
>European thinks the US healthcare system will allow a universally desirable and lifesaving drug to be available to the masses

I'm not worried.
I think it's still too early to say. WLS was supposed to be the end of fatness, especially once they figured out how to save more people than kill them, and less medieval treatments like the lap band were developed. Yet there were still enough complications where it didn't turn out to be "the magic bullet." People managed to eat through their surgeries, and it's really just a (drastic) tool alongside diet and exercise.

Unlike WLS, there's also a definite set-point for weight loss when using the drugs alone. Most people lose 15-25% of their body weight and stop there, and larger doses don't help. Of course if you supplement the drugs with diet and exercise you'll lose more weight, but if most people could manage that these drugs would be a moot point. If you're 5'8", 220 lbs and lose 44 you've dropped an entire category, from obese to overweight (and for our purposes, are not really fat anymore). But if you're 5'5" and 400 lbs and lose 80, you're still pretty damn fat. Thing is, Novo Nordisk and other drug companies are working hard to get past this set point issue. There's hundreds of billions of dollars at stake so I wouldn't bet against them.

Cost and availability won't be an issue much longer, even in the US. Wegovy and Ozempic go generic in China in 2026; Europe, Japan, and the US in 2031. That will drop the price to where just about any insurance company as well as Medicaid and Medicare will approve it, and anyone with a decent job will be able to afford it privately. (People already spend insane amounts on weight loss solutions they know don't work.) Already there are pharmacies compounding their own versions, semi-legally, for a fraction of the price. This is exploding in popularity in (red) states where govt subsidies are less and insurance companies are given greater latitude to deny patients.
There's always the chance for a paradox effect, where some people who take a drug actually recieve results that are the opposite of what is intended. Imagine a somewhat chubby girl taking ozympic for a shortcut and completely blowing up.
>>53955
I assume people who overeat for psychological reasons can override the drugs?
>>53957
Ozempic suppresses your appetite at a hormonal level. It is very difficult to overeat while you're on it. If you manage to overeat anyway, it makes you extremely nauseous. Hell, some people report that the drug just makes them really nauseous in general regardless of how much they eat. My friend's aunt is on it and she says it just makes her too nauseous to want to (over)eat in the first place. But she still takes it anyway.
>>53888
>Unlike WLS, there's also a definite set-point for weight loss when using the drugs alone. Most people lose 15-25% of their body weight and stop there, and larger doses don't help. [...] if you're 5'5" and 400 lbs and lose 80, you're still pretty damn fat.
I know of a woman like this (my boss's wife's sister. I've never met her but my boss told me all of this shit). Idk her weight but she hit a plateau after losing 6 stone (84lbs) so I presume she was about 400 or close to it. She kept using the drug for like another 8 months at double the recommended dose and still hasn't lost any more weight. Apparently she's desperately trying to get WLS, but she can't find a doctor who'll do it or an insurance company that'll cover it. WLS is not common in Ireland whatsoever, despite us ostensibly being a fat country if you look at statistics. This is a bit of a digression but I sometimes feel like the statistics are misleading, but maybe that's because most of the fat people in this country are old and/or ugly so I just don't notice them lol
We can either hope that:
A) It has egregious side effects that lead to it being taken off the market
B) Mixed markets with FDA like institutions only allow select companies to manufacture it (like with all prescription drugs in the United States) leading to extreme prices that are unfeasible for the average person
>>54055
It’s a biologic that costs five figures and cures nothing but a lack of willpower.
Considering it costs 1/3 of most workers new pay I don’t think it’s sustainable for insurances long term on a mass scale.
We’re seeing the impact of the drug getting popular with more than new money fat suburbanites whose parents can get a script for “obesity”.
I seriously doubt we are going to see more people run to take this drug. We are closing in on a women's size 20 to be a national average!
I was at an event recently and 9 out of 10 women were obese. Not fat, over 300lbs.
Times are swinging to fat.
Tbh allowing women to have more control over their weight is nice. Someone can gain to quite big and then easily loose it if they want. You dont have to be afriad of being fat your whole life just by gaining at 20.

So a win tbh, and there will always be fat girls.
>>54087
> Tbh allowing women to have more control over their weight is nice.
Tbh they’ve always had 100% control over their weight and are too lazy and greedy to work out and diet like the rest of us.
As someone who’s on it, here’s my take:

It requires a lot of commitment and follow through that these girls don’t have. You can eat through it but you get a god awful stomach ache and feel like death.

Believe it or not I started taking it as a way to see if it would cut back on my drinking and it has, I’ve also lost 20lbs.

My point with this is, unless it becomes significantly cheaper, or easier to take, these girls won’t take it.

Most don’t see a doctor regularly, or live in rural areas, or are poor, or have mental health conditions, etc. We will have to worry about the Boberrys of the world taking it, but we don’t have to worry about the lot of them.

Another example is look at how many qualify for WLS, and how many actually get it, how many actually gain the weight back?

Don’t get me wrong, I love fat chicks, fucking cannot get enough of them, but these drugs are an amazing invention that will help society as a whole.
>>54093
There's strong evidence that obesity is a disorder of the reward system.
This drug has been around for twelve years already, it has a ton of side effects, and if anything can't be considered a magic pill. Why is everyone talking about it all of a sudden?
>>54161
If you’re too weak willed to eat right it forces you to not binge on fast food or you get sick, fat people are lazy and want a easy way out
>>54161
The rule with anything new is to treat it as a magic pill. As soon as a new weight loss drug shows up, everyone acts like it's a magic shortcut to weight loss and after a while, once side effects become more well known then yeah views of it will change and will no longer be the magical potion it was once heralded as. Plus as we say, how do we know that those who took it won't regain weight either go back to their old diets or regain weight after going off the meds?
I also am guessing that based on stories of it not working for some people, it may not always work on 100% of all people, there will be cases where it either doesn't work, or barely works. But that doesn't sell, what does is the narrative of the superfat person who's now thin and skinny.
Research is finally unlocked the secrets of what makes people obese and its only a matter of time before better drugs come along with fewer side-effects.

I think we should have a special federal disability system for paying superfatties. The fatter you are the more money you get. Then we won't have to worry about the drugs.

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