What is the psychology of lard fetishism? Does anyone have any insight? As far as I know, no research has ever been done. We all have different awakening stories but our brains must have something in common. Why are we like this?

Biology:

Girls store calories and nutrients in their bodies in for several pregnancies, and years of breast feeding.

The brain requires a lot of calories to sustain itself, so having nutrient reserves is important.

Girls don't have as much muscle mass for efficient calorie storage.

So, P lump Women represent fertility.

Notes: Having a T hick body Cushions from impacts, B uoyancy in water
[ allows for long distance swimming.]

Other animals display feeding behaviors.

Elephant seals, Bee q ueens ,Termite quee ns, Honey pot ants [ larders].

There are also T hick mammals:

such as, Bears, walrus, otters, squirrels, etc.

Notes:
Applications:
1. Cybernetic equipment can be fueled by the calorie reserves in adipose tissue.
[ For hand held devices, the grid, emergency supply for homes.]

[ Calories are energy. ]

There also expeditions that use
H ibernation for long distance travel.

The human body is like a bio chemical factory. 1. This can used for [ oxygen for breathing. [ scuba]]. etc.

This should help understanding.

>>52934 (OP)
I've never seen a coherent answer and there's surprisingly little research. There doesn't seem to be any throughlines far as our parents or how we're raised — cold mom, warm mom, no mom, etc. I suspect it's some sort of early childhood trauma or meaningful encounter. Though I've been an FA/feeder for as long as I've been conscious of being alive. Other FAs talk about having an "awakening" as late as their mid 20s.

That's regarding folks like us in the West, but there's a cultural aspect too. There are a lot of African and Middle Eastern cultures where men prefer women way beyond "curvy," but as they Westernize this falls away.

>>52936
This all makes sense but then why aren't all men into BBWs, rather than a small percentage?

>>52937
It’s pretty much entirely natural and normal.
The better question is when did western culture fetishize women that look like prepubescent boys.
Historic norms the world over are for hefty women with hips that can carry a baby and breast feed across winter.
Plenty of cultural practices that are feederism 100%: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leblouh.
There’s not an animal on earth that signals reproductive fitness thru thin fragility in females.

I've read something recently about people who listen to alternative music having emotional needs that are harder to satisfy/haven't been satisfied, I think something similar might be going on with "size-divergent" fetishes.

The fertility angel doesn't fully check out because obesity isn't favorable for conceiving a child. When a women is slim like pic related it's easier too discern the authentic hallmarks of fertility like hip breadth, true boob size, butt shape, etc. A women being bigger than her partner also isn't dimorphic with humans at least.

What I think is really peculiar are people with this fetish from areas without them. Everyone from the US and some select pockets like Caribbean and Pacific Islands grew up along plus-size people which obviously influenced their tastes similar to how you're more attracted to certain ethnicities than others.

>>52939
>The better question is when did western culture fetishize women that look like prepubescent boys

Some time before recorded history because with very few exceptions the depictions of ideal women from 6000 BC-on haven't been fat nor close to it. "Historic norms" are far closer to prepubescent boys than curvy BBWs.

And so again, if this is normal and natural, why are we such a small minority in 2024? Around the world, not just North America and Europe.

>>52943
>The fertility angel doesn't fully check out because obesity isn't favorable for conceiving a child.

Exactly. A BMI between 26 and 30 is ideal for childbearing. 50, not so much.

I'm not sure if it's a lot about psychology (certainly a bit), but much rather biology

I think a lot or this is correct
There definetely is a link to fertility and all that

Reproduction and not going extinct is the very core of evolution

But there's a missing link
And this made me think.. And a theory, a thesis just came up in the very moment

What if the core of this is what was mentioned before, but due to some minor defect, let's call it a bug in our personal preferences program, it's exaggerated to an extreme..?

This kinda makes sense to me
A lot of us have this preference or fetish, whatever you wanna call it, from the very beginning and discovered it over the years..
So something, somewhere must have happened that causes that..

The only question then is:
What is the reason for that and how exactly does that work..

There could be a million reasons when you look at how evolution and biology works
(Thinking about body parts or abilities that got lost along the way and reappear once in a million people for example)

On the other hand maybe that's just the evolutionary spread of difference to ensure not going extinct (variety in combination with survival of the fittest or best adapted much rather) and there's no big deal about it..

A question that remains to be asked is:
Is there any research on fetish causes in general?
That would also be a good point to start at
Is there a lot of similarities or differences?

Never really took a look at it
But does biology or psychology dive into this area or do they stay away, cause it's kinda taboo and too niche..?

If anyone knows anything, maybe we can create some kind of link there..

For me personally there is no obvious reason
It's always been there
Being interested in females and sexuality never ever included skinny
It was at least bbw right away from day one
So it was definitely hard coded by default

Kinda like homosexuality it just exists and doesn't seem to have a direct cause
Another thing that might shed some light now that I wrote it
How does that get coded into some people's brains..?

>>52971
Replying to myself here

Quick research
There is no commonly established cause and anything from childhood experience to "faulty" or different brain development to biological reasons could be a reason

But all in all nobody really knows for sure

So it's probably a looong way until we know for sure where our preferences come from

>>52934 (OP)
I'm wondering how many of us have Slavic/Russian roots. This post >>51025 (Cross-thread) mentions that Russians for many centuries loved their women big.

I only found out that both sides of my family have some Russian blood in them, one from the Ukraine Side, and the other from Northern Finland. Looking through old photos of family, it appears all the women were indeed fat women until they migrated to the west.

So in short, I wonder if genetics play some kind of role in it.

>>52936
evolutionary psychology is almost entirely bullshit, and fetishes and kinks can be nonsensical and not sex related at all. i think its just an issue of when a creature with libido has sentience, for some reason certain wires can get crossed and instead of a typical sexuality they end up with weird fetishes, due to what they've observed. in the past, culturally, being plump was a sign of wealth, but now what is considered conventionally attractive is being skinny. i don't think sexual attraction has set rules other than straight being the majority. trying to work backwards from whats happening now to what could have caused this doesnt work because we can't observe evolution in humans, and we have no idea how much of our sexuality is nature or nurture, but most non-quack scientists tend to lean towards nurture.
TL;DR there is no evolutionary reason because evolutionary psychology is bullshit and we are all just weird for no reason other than we are and human sexuality is nebulous enough to allow it.

>>53030
> fetishes and kinks can be nonsensical and not sex related at all.
*not obviously sex related. But all kinks and fetishes ARE sexual in origin and ontogeny. There are no “crossed wires” only adaptive and maladaptive strategies of behavior controlled by genetics expressed across a wide array of context for a gigantic population.
Theories exist to connect every sexual kinks to sex and sexual preferences to reproduction…weird shit like “looners” exist, but even that fetish may be using the balloon as a surrogate for a pregnant woman or physical orgasm.

Foot fetishes for instance are an evolutionary mechanism to delink sex from penis/vagina.
Exponential growth of foot fetishdom during the AODS epidemic ( source: “Sexualization of the female foot as a response to sexually transmitted epidemics” https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9819924/
In the Sixteenth Century, an outbreak of syphilis appeared in Europe. In Again, there was a near-simultaneous reappearance of the foot fetish.
TLDR:
Things don’t fall for reasons other than gravity. No one busts a nut without it being connected to sex/reproduction.

I can't be bothered digging further into this (i.e. doing any kind of research to substantiate this claim), but I'm pretty sure there's a significant link between this fetish and autism.

Chubbychiquita posted a poll on her Tumblr asking followers if they were neurodivergent or neurotypical and it was something like an 80/20 split. (80% neurodivergent, 20% neurotypical). I think this might be some of the best data available that accurately captures a sample of the fat fetish population.

Not long after responding to that poll I got diagnosed with autism. I think for me, this fetish is a kind of special interest. Considering that Chans tend to be autist magnets, I'd say it's the same for a lot of you reading this post also.

>>53043
I guess this applies more to Europeans than Africans.

>>53043
There’s a huge selection bias in that data that renders it incomprehensible. If you were to survey the general population of fat fetishists, and not just the ones who buy content from models that got most of their fame from image boards, I’m sure the stats would be way more in line with the general population. Most fat fetish guys aren’t even in to the feeder stuff in the first place, I think that specific genre of fat fetish is more likely to attract autists who are hyperfixated on BBWs but liking fat girls in general is not that unusual in the general population, even if it isn’t the mainstream standard of beauty.

Also, hosting a poll on tumblr also yields its own selection bias issues— normies generally don’t congregate on that website at all.

Outside of selection bias there’s also the bias of self-reporting, people who aren’t autistic are going to be less likely to respond to a poll like that in the first place. Overall I think that data is meaningless.

>>53046
Autism is common among fat fetish weirdos more than men who like bbws/ssbbws. We are a-historically and unnaturally fat.
But there’s nothing wrong with liking a fatter ass on a woman, it’s an evolutionary advantage to make sure she can produce milk.
The autism comes in when people say to themselves “I get so hard for fat women but they’re disgusting, society told me they’re gross. Oh what a weird confusing sensation”

There's not one specific reason and the answer is going to be different for everybody. It's probably a vague combination of normal preferences in women that every guy has and whatever weird mindbreak happens to cause fetishes, with the ratio being different for everybody.

As mentioned above, there are some pretty wide gaps between guys who like soft girls with big tits and feeders and kilo-counting autists. In my case, I'm stricken with an inflation fetish which gradually grew to include attraction to fat girls that isn't at all dependent on them blowing up (though it obviously helps). I'm still attracted to thin women, but much less-so than I am to fat girls, but on the other hand watching them eat or weigh themselves does absolutely nothing for me and can even be kind of a turn-off.

There are a lot of commonalities and venn diagram crossovers going on here, but 'being into fat chicks' is way more broad then just being into watching them eat a cake on the floor or sit on a guy's face or whatever.

Is the question as to where this fetish comes from predicated on the idea that it's abnormal? I get that it's atypical, but how much of it is random connections in the brain forming as a result of random input from the environment? This search for a cause feels like the same thing as gay conversion therapy. I don't know if it's even possible to know until we can fully map human consciousness.

>>52934 (OP)
Fattyfuckers are similar in some regard to amazon fetishists or just tall girls in general AND harems.

The reason? Pure greed. A fat woman is "more woman per woman" - so is a tall one. A tall very fat one is maximally "efficient"

>>53084
Absolutely agree.

Thinking back to my childhood, I'm pretty sure it was a nurture side of things. None of my family was fat, but in kindergarten I sympathized and had good relations more with chubby girls than with skinny ones. I specifically remember one fat girl I was friends with. This sort of thing continued in school. At that time I discovered internet and fat fetish porn was the first thing I saw.
I don't wanna over generalize, but I think fetishes are mainly a combo of: your first encounters+your subconscious conclusions from these encounters+your first experience with porn.

There is little research on fat fetishism itself but its thought that body related fetishes are hardwired from birth (which seems to be reflected in the common "I've always liked fat girls" response) and behavioral or object related ones are acquired in early childhood. I dont think everyone who likes fat girls has a fat fetish in the same sense though. Many of us just seem hardwired to be aroused by fat itself, regardless of where it is or who its own, including the sex we arent attracted to, whereas others are only into the typical reproductive health signalling hourglass figure taken to the extreme.

>>53608
I'm not challenging you at all but genuinely curious: do you have any sources for this? I've always suspected this is true (I feel it's true for me, at least) but have never seen "official" confirmation.