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Here's all the Pokemon LG/FR sprite edits so far
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Excuse me, but, what did happen with this artist? They have a gallery/account in another site?
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I’ve been looking for an image of Dawn sitting in Cynthia’s lap, while she is feeding her and says something like “A champion need to be well feed”. It was posted in the VI-VIII threads, but I could only find the fifth one
thanks mate
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Team Rocket Grunt girl, also posting the version @AshihaLeaf made, which I used heavily referenced, too good a shape not to keep using for this girl.
>>216886
Awesome job as usual! I think she looks really good
>>216886
which one are you doing next?
>>217035
I really hope they'll work on the female Jr. Trainer/Picnicker next
>>216886
Great as always.
Also, AshihaLeaf's sprite art is amazing too, shame they don't frequently make it.
>>217044
Could she debatably look too young? It's why I haven't gotten to her yet.

The girl protagonists get off this worry by generally having a lot more art over the years and I think just saying they're depicted as 18. Think how much May has for example. For the opposite, the Twins trainers are just two little girls who I'm not changing at all, loli isn't good.
>>217125
Well...I guess I won't work on the hack yet, I hate incomplete projects
>>217125
I know you already did Leaf but do you plan on editing her backsprite (with or without animation) as well?
>>217167
Yup, I'm going to edit all of Leaf's sprites. Not leaving anything behind which means all the sprites for map, back sprites, opening and credits.
>>217202
Aside from the adults, all the other fucking Pokemon characters are underage and I think people should get over this already. It's a useless debate
>>217202
What's up with the first Dawn picture? She's skinny there.
>>217206
>all the other fucking Pokemon characters are underage
>fucking Pokemon characters
Damn, Anon, you're hardcore but that's too rich for my blood.

>>217208
>What's up with the first Dawn picture
>loli isn't good
>>217125
About the twins, what do you think about making aged up sprites instead
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Sure I'd up for that, I've also decided I might as well make the Picnicker edit too.

What I was trying to say before about the protagonists is the fact it's very accepting to draw for this art to where not many really question it, popular artists draw them. My first sprite edits I posted here were of Leaf, Hilda, and Dawn. Looking at the FRLG trainers, about 85% are adults so that's where I've been having no issue.
>>217125
I argue Pokemon is trying to have its cake and eat it too when it comes to game design. Pokemon sees itself as for adults which is why Charizard and Kanto gets shilling, but the newer designs lean towards kid friendly. Complicating this is that kids like the monsters like Pikachu while the chibi designs alienates adults. The protagonists up until Sinnoh had free will, then came VI with helicopter parenting
>>217218
Even the new anime is tonally confusing. Liko is supposed to aim at girls, but that only works if you pretend the Beauty, Swimmer, Lass trainers don't exist.
>>217209
The company is overcompensating for Takeshi Shudo writing Misty and May more like Ash's cheerleader. It's like how Tomino says female characters in anime are just talking onaholes for Char to grab. Japanese misogyny is so hilarious cause it's the one time they act like chain-smoking Amerans
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>>217215
>What I was trying to say before about the protagonists is the fact it's very accepting to draw for this art to where not many really question it
That's called hypocrisy.
>popular artists draw them
Many of whom are massive hypocrites.
Honestly, if I were you, I'd say something about not wanting to do anyone younger or looks younger than the protags if there's no number assigned to their design, and leave it at that.

>>217218
>I argue Pokemon is trying to have its cake and eat it too when it comes to game design
No it isn't, they're eating their cake and taking yours to eat too because they know you're just gonna buy another for them to take from you with no resistance.

>Pokemon sees itself as for adults
Since when?! The closest it got to that without outsourcing was G5, where they put far more energy into make a story and retardedly implementing difficulty modes.

>which is why Charizard and Kanto gets shilling
That's just a little fanservice for the grown up fans that are still there.

>newer designs lean towards kid friendly
More a mixture of sanitization for a global audience and "I can't think of anything", and it could be partly or mostly be also caused by the fact that no one from the sprite era of Pokemon is left at Gamefreak.

>The protagonists up until Sinnoh had free will
Illusion of free will; even back during the early gens when it was still possible to skip a couple gyms, they still aimed you.

>>217219
>>217220
The fuck are you talking about?
>Japanese misogyny
Ah, you're fucked in the head.
>>217241
Pokemon is not as big as it was in the 90s. I also think you're asking too much of free will in a RPG game.
>>217241
Honestly...you know, I shouldn't have asked this dude to make more sprite edits. I suspected he would've refused editing certain types of trainers sooner or later lmao
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>>217250
There's only 2 trainers in FRLG I wouldn't do straight up without larger alterations out of 23. I'm still willing to change every girl in the game basically. It's just really confusing me if I should care or not about the interpretations of some of these characters, like I can't be told the opposite opinions and cater to both. So do I limit things or not
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>>217248
>Pokemon is not as big as it was in the 90s
Anon, you're going senile, you're thinking of Final Fantasy. Pokemon, unless something happened after Violet/Scarlet that I haven't heard about, is still selling copies hand over fist but with record numbers even with Gamefreak completely phoning the newer entries in.

>I also think you're asking too much of free will in a RPG game
Dude, both Obsidian and Bethesda did far more with box tops that ran on Megabytes; hell, even Way of the Samurai did more and it's made by a tiny team with a shit budget.

>>217250
You didn't want pictures posted faster? Wasn't Picknicker already fattened up in the romhack, along with one of the Twins, or are you guys using a different one as a base?

>>217254
Meet in the middle; oppai loli or give the cows big asses and turn them into shortstacks.
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>>217265
>Anon, you're going senile, you're thinking of Final Fantasy. Pokemon, unless something happened after Violet/Scarlet that I haven't heard about, is still selling copies hand over fist but with record numbers even with Gamefreak completely phoning the newer entries in.

Pretty much. This is a bit of an old chart but the point remains that the Switch games are by far the most popular since Gen 1 by units sold. SV is a step down from SwSh which is worth noting but it's still #3.

I understand pessimism and cynicism but popularity's not the best argument.
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>>217588
>Black/White that low on the charts
>X/Y anywhere but cracking through the bottom
I'd be sickened with the Switch games being so high, had it not been for them being buffed by the fact everyone has a Switch.
>>217611
I haven't checked if it's changed yet but the Switch is slightly behind the DS' lifetime sales so it's not like people didn't have the hardware for Gen 5 which is interesting. The games not on the Gameboy or Switch aren't that far apart from each other. Fanbase really doesn't have a pulse on their own series.

RGBY and GSC dominance is a given
RSE gets very overrepresented
DPPt I can buy even if only a few things from it usually comes up. Feels like an "everyone likes them even if they don't talk about them"
BW being everyone's darling but actually the low point is pure lmao.
XY is underrepresented. I rarely hear Kalos talk besides talking about them being too easy
SM is about where I'd put it. Alola seems to have a dedicated fanbase that fits that
Personally I would've assumed the Switch generations to be swapped. Even accounting for recency bias, it feels like I see more Scarlet and Violet talk than I ever did for SwSh which kinda came and went outside controversies like Dexit.
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>>217588
>>217611
>>217631
Pokemon Black and White tried to deviate from the franchise and push it to be more multi layered and nuanced.

This meant cutting out all of the old pokemon and focusing purely on the new ones. pokemon fans turned away because they hate quality. It's not comfort food like "muh first generation or second generation" pokemon games.

X and Y is a bad remake of Pokemon RBGY and it's probably one of the worst pokemon games main entry wise. So this resulted in Pokemon games refusing to try and making more bank purely because the nostalgic brain dead fuckwit can't separate their childhood memories with said quality.

Why do you think Gen 8 and Gen 9 pandered hard to those fanboys?
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>>217638
Continuing my rant

This is why Sun and Moon is the only 3D pokemon that is defended as the "Good 3D Pokemon game". Because it actually gets back to what Black and White were up to but not as well fleshed out as Black and White.

Too bad that Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon started walking back in that shit and everybody hated it
>>217638
>>217639
What do you think of Ruby/Sapphire and Diamond/Pearl's placements? I could see someone saying Ruby/Sapphire was always going to take a hit since it's right after Pokemania ended and Diamond/Pearl would get a boost because the DS sold like crack but do you think there's more to it?
>>217639
God fucking damnit, of course you had to also appear here...
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>>217640
Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald was due to the fact that said games suffered from weirdly inferior visuals and having two teams that were majorly incompetent.

Say what you will about Cyrus and his emotionless and stunted persona, at least he would have had both the time and space Pokemon to reset shit if it went south. Archie and Maxie either were going to cause Water World or Mad Max. neither was an improvement and would have been extremely difficult to reverse.

Diamond, Pearl and Platinum had their issues too but their mechanics, visuals and certain characters were objectively better. Only by combining it's visual design and mechanics with Gold/silver/Crystal's Pokemon regions and characters that it wound up doing better
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>>217631
>BW being everyone's darling but actually the low point is pure lmao
The first game to really make changes and have Gamefreak actually sitting down and trying to do work, and the last because some of the big changes (no old Pokemon til post game) alienated the common consumer and I think a good bit of the hardcore players.

>XY is underrepresented. I rarely hear Kalos talk besides talking about them being too easy
It was a garbage generation; if it wasn't for the gens that followed, I'd think it was because it was their first attempt at a 3D Pokemon. Team Flare made the eco terrorists look smart, and Cyrus's plan look practical and realistic. The rivals were absolute garbage that were all constant failures who all happily kissed your ass. I could only find enough new Pokemon for a single team, it was the first entry where the gym leader and Elite 4 designs were either shit or uninteresting (except dragon e4), and Diantha is the worst Champ I've ever witnessed, and it had shit all for post game.


>Alola seems to have a dedicated fanbase that fits that
Never played them but what I can see is the character designs recovered enough for the time being but that music is god awful.

>t feels like I see more Scarlet and Violet talk than I ever did for SwSh which kinda came and went outside controversies like Dexit
If we're speaking about within expansion, I'd say it's probably from the designs pandering to their degenerate tastes and causes, while also being not only in a school setting but one that's open to any age.

This talk made me want to bully Shauna until she's fucking destroyed before rebuilding her into her old pure bubbly self but whenever she ends up in a fight, she turns into endgame Paul.

>>217638
>push it to be more multi layered and nuanced
All they did was give it an actual story beyond the usual stop the evil teams antics and some world lore here and there.

>This meant cutting out all of the old pokemon and focusing purely on the new ones
That wasn't "multi layered" or "nuanced", they just wanted to push people into trying out the new Pokemon without falling back on their old favorites.

>pokemon fans turned away because they hate quality
Because they're creatures of habit who don't care as long as they get their fix; had they released what they did in BW2, instead of the originals, it probably would've came close to dethroning G2.

>X and Y is a bad remake of Pokemon RBGY
Pic related, the fuck are you talking about?

>>217639
>Continuing my rant
>Making a second post instead of dumping that little in one post
Raging faggot.

>This is why Sun and Moon is the only 3D pokemon that is defended as the "Good 3D Pokemon game".
No, it'd be because all the other games are worse; Pokemon fans still around buy whatever mainline and eat it up.

>>217644
>Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald was due to the fact that said games suffered from weirdly inferior visuals
That's what the kids these days are calling endless water routes?

>Archie and Maxie either were going to cause Water World or Mad Max. neither was an improvement and would have been extremely difficult to reverse
And, you'd jump on the chance to use a Pokemon to cause mass fattening; it's what's called greed, and it can involve people wanting and going for things that can fuck others, without a care in the world.
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>>217644
>Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald was due to the fact that said games suffered from weirdly inferior visuals
Never heard that be a complaint towards any of the Gen 3 Pokemon games before. The big problem I'd always hear about Gen 3 was how you couldn't transfer from Gens 1 and 2 at all, and how completing the Pokedex was a nightmare.
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>>217659
>If we're speaking about within expansion, I'd say it's probably from the designs pandering to their degenerate tastes and causes, while also being not only in a school setting but one that's open to any age.

You have a point. Overly passionate and excitable Latina, aloof shut-in geek girl, and goofy white boy with a sob story the companions were are very popular archetypes along with the school setting.

I'm not just talking about fetish material but what it seems the fanbase fixates on. You would think Galar and Kalos as examples would get a lot of attention and fan content based on sales as opposed to the "less popular" Hoenn and Unova games. It's likely because the online fanbase is made of the diehards and not the common consumer.

I don't have a problem with it because I don't care for them either. I only brought it up because it's easy to disprove modern Pokemon being less popular and I think it's fascinating how bad the fans are at reading the pulse of the series.
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>>217639
What are you on about, Kanto pandering was just as bad if not worse in Sun & Moon than X&Y.
And going back to special editions like USUM rather than sequels like BW2 was a colossal step back.
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>>217699
>Overly passionate and excitable Latina
Last I heard, s/v took place in Spain, not Latin America.

>You would think Galar and Kalos as examples would get a lot of attention and fan content based on sales
What the fuck are you talking about, Galar had a ton of art.

>It's likely because the online fanbase is made of the diehards and not the common consumer
Pic related, that was pretty much only true during the gens before smart phones and while it was still gaining traction.
>>217220
Makes me wish May just absolutely hated Ash
>>218000
>fourth image
Is TDookus a hypocrite?
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My commission from Waltzpurgis
>>218052
Dont know whats hypocritical but what i do know is those sketches are greag
>>218000
My only issue with the last one is the theme is thrown off by having Soliera and no Juliana. I don't even care about her but it's like seeing one out of place tile on the floor.

>>218071
I'm guessing it's the usual about getting worked up about fictional character ages and then not caring when it comes to your own art.
>>218078
>I'm guessing it's the usual about getting worked up about fictional character ages and then not caring when it comes to your own art.
Yep.
>>218068
No prob. Can't say how soon that will be but I will share once I got something.


>>218078
Not to turn this into an artist rant but I wish he just kept that to himself, I like some of his art otherwise
>>218078
>worked up about fictional character ages and then not caring when it comes to your own art
when you draw them fuckin huge and tall like that i think age is a non entity because at that point they're obviously adults
i don't keep up with zoomer drama but i don't think there's any hypocrisy here if he was only explicitly calling out loli
>>218162
>when you draw them fuckin huge and tall like that i think age is a non entity because at that point they're obviously adults
i don't keep up with zoomer drama but i don't think there's any hypocrisy here if he was only explicitly calling out loli

I don't follow him so I have no idea what he said but the age debate extends to any character canonically under 18 in their original media. Pokemon protagonists are usually between 11-16 depending on the game so they should be a no go but people keep drawing them anyways. Saying you "aged them up" is seen as a flimsy excuse if their number on the wiki is too low or Twitter decides they're drawn too young.

It's escalated to absurdity with your best bet being to ignore it. Ironically there's been a pattern of the most vocal with accusing turning out to be child abusers but that's a whole another tangent.
>>218166
>Saying you "aged them up" is seen as a flimsy excuse if their number on the wiki is too low
i fucking hate loli, but people that think like this are stupid. if they're drawn as adults it's clearly not meant to be weird "uoh child" shit. you would think the people who can recognize that "she's actually 3000 years old even if she looks like a child" is a meme cope would be able to apply the same logic in the other direction, or at least target actual loli artists instead, but i guess it's more logical to attack people who draw what's OBVIOUSLY adults because even drawing a mature adult with huge hips and tits is bad even when it's clear they're not considering the canon with said hips and tits
>>217202
Isn't Roxanne an adult? She's a teacher
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Since it was requested, I did eventually just edit Picnicker next, as well as Beauty right after
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Jerking off to fat Pokemon girls is 10x more satisfying whenever I imagine the whining faggots being completely powerless to stop it aside from throwing around buzzwords while trying to seem tough and intimidating on the internet. Just so you seethe even more, I imagine all of these Pokegirls with their canon ages too in my head. Hope that knowledge gives you a stroke, you barely sentient cum bubbles.
>>218000
By any chance, do you know the artist of the last image?
>>219179
Style makes me think TDookus but I'm not 100% sure
>>219159
you sure showed them by jerking off while thinking of other men, tranny
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>>219207
Sure thing fag. Will keep jacking it to pokemon girls and you can do nothing about it.
>>219210
no one's here to think about your tiny dick, pajeet
>>219210
Holy fuck is that a Gen III Courtney dat art? That's rare.
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Does anyone by some sheer coincidence have this image in its original quality?

Uhhh..


A-asking for a friend, yeah-
There was a magma grunt feeder comic where an aqua grunt was feeding the magma grunt, anyone have it?
>>219375
It's a good thing you mentioned that you're asking for a friend, for a minute there I might have thought you have a fat fetish
>>219577
Pssh, yeah. It's for them, not me. I-I'm totally not into all that or anything...
>>216412
Does anyone have any idea where I can see a complete compilation of this artist (really complete)? I'm still looking for an image of Beel eating ice cream while suffering from the heat but I can't find it.
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>>220461
don't have a complete compliation unfortunately but i think this is what you're talking about.

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