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>>110965
Never gonna happen, unfortunately. Same reason why Wenis won't draw any Mobian but Vanilla or Rouge anymore.

They're technically underage and Wenis has that dumb brainworm in their head.
>>110989
I know, it's freaking stupid. It's a fictional character, their age doesn't matter when it can be changed.
>>111038
>>111038
I have to agree, this whole conflict is stupid.

While it is still morally dubious to create and distribute sexual content of (exclusively) fictional, adolescent characters, most artists just age up those characters anyway.

So long as a character in a piece of media is both plausibly depicted as having the appearance of a physically mature adult, and is either implied or stated to be physically mature, then the character's canonical age from the original source material is irrelevant to the moral argument. If a fictional character in a piece of art is depicted as an adult, and is labeled as being an adult, then there really isn't any problem with sexualizing them in that particular piece of media, even if the character originally is an adolescent.

Then there are highly abstract characters where their age is either arbitrary or not applicable. Ralsei (and other darkners) from Deltarune for example, (given what is known about them in canon) is the corporeal manifestation of some particular object that enters the Dark World. It is implied that either Kris or some other entity created Ralsei's Dark World form from their imagination. In this case, age is not really applicable to Ralsei. If a piece of art that depicts Ralsei as having what is plausibly a physically mature body, and having appropriate mental maturity, but in a sexual matter, then the moral conflict of sexualizing underage characters does not really apply to that piece of art. If the fictional character looks like an adult, and their age is abstract, then there really isn't a problem.

Then there are freaky characters such as Perfect Cell from Dragon Ball Z. Perfect Cell is predatory, his physique resembles that of a man, and his voice is very masculine, but he is physically androgynous (despite using male pronouns), and can asexual reproduce. And yet, Cell is canonically only 6 years old (thanks Team Four Star for sharing that). So while Perfect Cell is underage, he is clearly physically mature, and I highly doubt that most people would have a problem with someone else making freaky, sexually explicit art of the character.

And for artist who still has a problem with just aging up a character, they can just create an alternate fictional character that is of proper age and majority. For anyone who read through the previous Deltarune/Undertale thread, they might remember the stupid drama about an artist named Fawxen who has an original character named Lynn who closely resembles Noelle.

In summary, the whole argument is stupid for the majority of cases. This counter argument obviously doesn't cover cases of art where a sexualized character's physical maturity is questionable (which I find to be gross), but that's only a minority of cases anyway. And while there are other moral conflicts in far art involving bestiality and incest, those issues are separate to this one.

Is there anything wrong with all that?
>>111044
My line if thinking is that if a character's fictional, it doesn't matter. I don't want to fuck children because of a picture of a purple dinosaur with fat tits. What you do on the internet does not inherently determine who you are as a person. A lot of people make fat fetish art as a regular job. If you met a fetish artist in real life, you probably wouldn't even recognize them from how they act. Let people have some skeletons in their closet. No man is free of sin, but instead of hating everyone, we should save it for the actually bad people, and not the people who want to see Noelle's ass.
>>111044
What about characters in which being a minor is an integral part of their character?
I like Seth.
>>111130
...Generally someone's exact age is not an integral part of their character.
>>111138
Finally! Someone makes a decent ass Dess version that's not just Susie, but as a reindeer.
>>111038

A little anecdote I'd like to add to this: if anyone has seen roxas617's Weird Route Noelle art on DA, the comments have been pushy about Noelle being underage, and instead of just saying he aged her up in the art, which would be the normal, sensible thing to do, he keeps asserting that there isn't any proof that Noelle is not underage ???????

https://www.deviantart.com/roxas617/art/Let-s-Do-Something-Crazy-1366254752 The art in question
wut
>>111208
Blame whoever decided the images should be .webp by default lmao
>>111204
he just likes fucking with people, he has an alt on pixiv where he does his loli posting.
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>>111251
Are you sure? I looked up cchair lab on bsky and nothing came up. Was there a typo?
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>>111269
yeah got their display name and actual handle mixed my bad it's cchilab on bsky
God Catty is so overrated, bring on the Susie ffs
>>111785
No thanks, bring the Temmie stuff por favor.
>>111787
Keep it coming, we Susie enjoyers will win over the Catty
Can we get some more Noelle in here?
>>111843
For some reason I've never envisioned Carol as disapproving of Noelle gaining weight. Idk why it makes total sense for her character
>>111851
Dess would be fat as fuck and noelle would not mind copying her (she enjoys Kris teasing her about her weight so she WANTS to stay fat to keep hearing them say those things), carol doesnt really care since she's mostly absent anyways and berdly thinks Noelle is just very into gaming like him
>>111859
Kris And Susie teaming up to make Noelle fat as fuck, like the founding fathers intended.
>>111905
They bring her to the dark world to try out Darkner food (has no nutritional value, but still has calories) and Ralsei freakin' loves how soft and fluffy Noelle is. Kris and Susie convince him to feed her even more.
Waiter! Waiter! More Noelle please! :3
Can we get some Noelle blobs in here?~
>>111917
ridiculouscake is a horrible fucking fat artist and i will die on that hill
>>112146
You replied to the wrong post.
>>112135
really nigga. orange. the character whos main character trait is being a bratty child? like noelle and susie are fine they act like young adults but orange?
>>112150
Orange is a fucking flower.
>>112155
No, she's a human, you idiot
>>112162
Ahh, you're right. Sorry for the mistake, I'll go burn a hole in my foot as recompense.
>>112146
Their art is oddly... square for lack of a better term
https://wgtropes.miraheze.org/wiki/Hyper-Rune

Found this on WG Tropes a couple days ago, really liked the Catti’s story The Dinner Incident, but I’m not sure if reading it breaks any pictures or if there’s just one picture in the fic.
>>112150
Orange is canonically older than Deltarune Asriel
>>112156
is my opinion really about to get dismissed because i replied to the wrong message
>>112165
lowkey true. all their art is just all that unrealistic shit with no fat rolls
>>112230
orange is the same age as the rest of the flowers, they were all grown for the bouquet at toriel and asgore's wedding. asriel was (presumably) born after they were married. therefore, orange is older than asriel.
>>112382
This shit has devolved into the anime “well the character that looks sounds and acts like a child is actually grown” stereotype
>>112543
I'm going to commission RidiculousCake to draw a fatasd Orange just to piss you you off specifically.
Can someone make a Noelle exclusive thread please! I'd do it myself but I don't know how.
>>112609
That would be entirely useless LOL
>>112609
Just post Noelle stuff here, bruh.
>>112609
are you genuinely retarded?
>>112549
Does he even take commissions?
>>112623
Hey, the flowers choose the forms they want to take. If Aqua wants to be a baby gremlin, then she can be a baby gremlin. That doesn't make her 4.
Shut up with this shit and give me Temmie preg art!
>>112543
characters being immature doesnt make them children, i've seen way more immature people out there, Orange being short doesn't make her a child, and "sounds" is just headcanon, she doesn't have canon voicelines
>>112624
Dude, I was syaing "if Orange is older than the protags, than so is Aqua".
>>112549
You cannot be this petty lmao and specifically choosing ridiculouscake too cause i bitched about it earlier was the cherry on top that was really good.
>>112751
I want anon to do it so ridiculous would make something that isn't a human girl or whatever the fuck
Does anyone here have Wenisberry's old Noelle and or Susie art?
>>112740
Why are dess fats always so good
>>112753
Orange IS a human, blockhead.
>>112950
i also wanted to post more but i think it doesnt support pngs or something
Ceroba... fuck yes...
Anyone got that one pic of susie where she's very flabby and kinda just standing there smiling? If anyone knows what I mean, please do post it
We need more obese Susie
We need more SSBBW Suselle art.
>>113724
Finally. Some good fucking Noelle art
>>112663
Literally everything about the character is childlike I don’t understand what’s the fucking appeal
>>113729
Why does it fucking matter? If you don't like it, then just leave. You don't have to be a pretentious dickhead about fucking Deltarune fetish art.
>>113729
I really don't see the appeal either. I find it more humorous than anything that I would consider sexy. Yet I still do not think there is anything that is particularly morally wrong with the artwork of the character that was posted.

As others have stated in this thread, Orange is not even under-aged. Orange in the light world is just a flower that was presumably planted before Asriel (who is old enough to be in college during the events of Deltarune) was born. In the Dark World, Orange's body manifests into the form of a large mouse (or possibly a rat). While Orange is certainly tiny, there is nothing to indicate that her cartoonish, rodent-like body is not physically mature. Just because Orange sometimes acts like a bratty child (which an adult character could certainly do) does not mean that she is under aged.

Also, the little artwork there is of Orange that I have seen is rather tame. It is all cartoony, and none of it is sexually explicit. Even if the character's apparent mental maturity is arguably low, it is not a big problem.

If anything, I think artwork of Aqua (which I am glad to have not seen any fetish art of) is far worse anyway. While Aqua would not be under aged like all the other flower characters, Aqua's mental maturity is about as low as Orange's and (more importantly) her dark world form clearly resembles the body of a young human girl (who also has three large eyeballs behind her hair). But even then, there are other weird outliers such as the character Temmie that apparently no one has a problem with anyway.

In summary, I think that this whole argument about Orange is stupid.
Seriously, just post more artwork of Noelle, Susie, Catti, Catty, Carol, Alphys, Undyne, and Dess (fan-designs) already (Toriel already has a separate, dedicated thread).
>>113806
I wouldn't bother looking. It was deleted
>>113748
thank you for making a valid point
>>113847
didn't know they liked highschoolers like that wew
>>113859
stop saying it like theyre not young adults

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